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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:08 Post #1
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	I was just talking about this with someone else and have found some major flaws in the way designers are critiqued at this forum. I find that there is not much separation and the current scale is not what should be used. Looking at some members which have been classified, I find that although they are of clearly different design levels, they have the same classification.Furthermore, I find that the current system of A to E isn't being used correctly. Like school, C is average, A is best and E is fail. The problem is that nothing is a failure, in which case A to E should be like a rank from 1 to 10 (which would be more suitable). Even better would be Amateur, Novice, etc. I hope these things are looked at.

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Cody	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:19 Post #2
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	E? Do you mean F? We were debating whether or not to have C-, C+, B-, B+, etc. I suppose we could add those new variables to balance it out a little more.

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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:21 Post #3
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	Those are still all the same. Anything bellow a C- become a failure and nothing is a failure!

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~~flashfox~~	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:24 Post #4
Disabled Posts: 1,381 Group: Disabled Member #2,377 Joined: Dec 13, 2008 Message I think Maddy's amazing! :D	Good Point Flavius.

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Cody	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:28 Post #5
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	We don't grade below a C or C-, it's the lowest you can get.

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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:34 Post #6
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	So why not extend it to allow for better separation.

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Cody	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:40 Post #7
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	We definitely could, but I'd say that something like a D would put someone's work down rather than telling them the quality. C- seems like a nicer way to put it.

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Joe	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:40 Post #8
Hi. Posts: 40,172 Group: Administrator Member #1,758 Joined: Sep 20, 2008	Flavius Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:34 So why not extend it to allow for better separation. So you're saying a system based from 1-10, 5 being average, 1 being failure, should be used?
	Joe
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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:42 Post #9
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	No. There is no failure! That is what I am trying to say. Use this: Amateur, Novice, Adept, Skillful, Master, etc.

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Cody	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 22:50 Post #10
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	By not using the F, we don't suggest that there is failure. We're basically using what you suggest, but in a different way. The C to A system is unique and it fits with our theme of a 'school' area. However, it can definitely be changed if many others agree with you that they would like your names better.

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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:00 Post #11
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	I do not think you understand entirely. The problem is the A to C does not separate the members enought. What I propose it a 10 rank system, each rank with a name as I said before or different names. Having this greater separation allows for members to be classified better because while some members may be close to A they ar not there. This is why the 10 ranks is better. EVERYONE SUPPORT ME!

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Cody	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:04 Post #12
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	Flavius Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:00 I do not think you understand entirely. The problem is the A to C does not separate the members enought. What I propose it a 10 rank system, each rank with a name as I said before or different names. Having this greater separation allows for members to be classified better because while some members may be close to A they ar not there. This is why the 10 ranks is better. EVERYONE SUPPORT ME! If they're close to A, but not entirely there, then that's where a B+ or A- would come in. A+ A A- B+ B B- C+ C C- That's nine ranks, you could translate in to words if you really needed to such as: C- ; Amateur C ; Novice C+ ; Adept Etc.

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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:05 Post #13
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	What do you do about B/B+.

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Cody	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:10 Post #14
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	Well they'd have some name. What I'm trying to get at is that the C to A system is the same as what you're thinking about, just with some different names. At the moment we haven't added C-, C+ and B-, B+ but since you've brought this up we will add those.

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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:13 Post #15
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	Also, I was thinking why not keep the ranks for ever until the designer wished to be classified again if he/she believes that they have improved.

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Cody	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:18 Post #16
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	Then we'd have lots of people with ranks they don't really deserve anymore. I consider a designer someone who at least periodically produces graphics. It also helps people keep their skills sharper. Most people get worse if they go a long time with out designing, so why should they keep a grade they can't match up to anymore? That's just the way I feel.

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Robot	Sunday, 29. November 2009, 23:19 Post #17
Level 9 Posts: 3,328 Group: Silver Member Member #1,514 Joined: Aug 14, 2008	I understand.

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Bamboo	Monday, 30. November 2009, 07:50 Post #18
GFX Posts: 117 Group: Member Member #4,197 Joined: Nov 21, 2009 Message Hard to believe but I'm still a learner at GFX.....	School systems are different everywhere. Here, we use the system A-F = pass. U = fail
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Cody	Wednesday, 9. December 2009, 12:21 Post #19
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	Thank you for your feedback, it has been discussed and has now been moved to the archive.

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