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| Geoffrey | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 09:18 Post #1 |
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http://965kvki.com/no-more-school-homework-in-france/ What do you think? Is this a good idea to remove homework? What types of policy did your school have? |
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| cynosure.x | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 09:21 Post #2 |
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I think homework is good for something but NOT if you have heaps and heaps of homework and can't do anything else. Kids (I actually mean everyone who's going to school) should be able to have fun and do other stuff because if all they ever do is go to school and make homework, they'll get so stressed out. On the other hand, there are people who only go to school and do homework/study... I never had any problems with homework. Never did it and if it was a huge deal I'd copy it from someone else and make it "my own". |
 
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| Stacha | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 09:25 Post #3 |
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Even though homework is a pain, I've always thought it was pretty necessary. Homework helped me to grasp the concepts I learned in school. It gave me a chance to practice, to memorize. Like Cynny, I think it's good to be mindful of how much is assigned (there's no excuse for a student having three or four hours' worth of homework a night), but I think there should be some. |
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| Geoffrey | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 09:26 Post #4 |
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I never had any homework all through high school, I was always able to get it done in class or in homeroom or during some other free time through out the day. Obviously not everyone is like that, but a lot actually were. I'm not sure how I feel about this proposal though. On one hand, I can see the benefit just as said because it does people more time to do other things and enjoy life (because it's gone before you know it) and some will even be working. But also, I can see how it would be a bother to teachers who have to give time in class to do work and they'll know that between classes, students will never look at or think about their material for class again. A lot of times homework is over assigned, but often it's used only to reinforce and help to teach the material on a continued basis. Just "busy work" isn't right (like math often is) but sometimes assignments can be necessary and teachers can't always give everyone enough time to get them done in class. |
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| Stacha | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 09:28 Post #5 |
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I'm just willing to bet test scores plummet because of this. |
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| Geoffrey | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 09:31 Post #6 |
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It wouldn't surprise me, though it will definitely be interesting to see how this does do in France. They can be our guinea pigs. 
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| cynosure.x | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 10:06 Post #7 |
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We were never allowed to make homework during class. If a teacher noticed, she toon it aday from you. |
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| Geoffrey | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 11:20 Post #8 |
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I've had some teachers like that, but it was never a school-wide policy and most didn't really care (they may, but they don't say anything most of the time). |
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| jackie | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 14:20 Post #9 |
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I think homework is necessary to an extent. But like right now, for seniors, we should not get homework omfg I've got piles of work to do because of college apps it's ridiculous a;lskdjf and my English teacher assigned a research paper due next week but omg my apps are due on Nov. 1st. So yes, even though I despise homework, it's still necessary but not in ridiculous amounts. |
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| Maddie | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 14:21 Post #10 |
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I dunno, I'm in between. xD I never really did my homework, I always had it done in class, and it never really seemed to help me grasp the assignment better. If anything the classwork did. |
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| Dragon Lord | Wednesday, 17. October 2012, 15:26 Post #11 |
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I never did homework. 90% of the time I forgot it at school anyways and just quickly filled in the answers before class started. Or I would come up with some excuse and get extra time. :p Homework was always useless for me. It never helped me improve my tests scores. Then again I never even cared about my test scores to begin with. |
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| Sage | Thursday, 18. October 2012, 20:27 Post #12 |
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I always did extremely well on tests and work while in school, but ended up failing a few classes (and ultimately dropping out) because I never did any homework. Some teachers had homework and attendance making up more than 50% of their overall grade, which got me in the end. Homework has no place in the education system. Sure, it helps make sure students are always learning and using their brain, even outside of school, but it adds another element that I think doesn't belong: responsibility. You could be the Einstein of your generation, but end up failing all your classes because you were too lazy to take your homework home or complete it even if you did. |
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| Stacha | Thursday, 18. October 2012, 21:28 Post #13 |
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Wouldn't you say teaching kids responsibility is a good thing though? Not to mention the fact that it can go the other way. Homework hurt your grade, but for kids who don't do well on tests it can save them from failing. If they aren't in the habit of doing homework in school by the time they get to college, they're going to be in trouble. There are some classes that rely on homework more than anything. You have to be willing to work outside of class. |
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| Dragon Lord | Thursday, 18. October 2012, 21:38 Post #14 |
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I guess it just depends on the person. I never planned on going to college, so getting into the habit of doing homework didn't matter to me. |
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| Stacha | Thursday, 18. October 2012, 21:42 Post #15 |
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More and more people are going though, and removing homework from the schools could hurt their chances quite a bit. |
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| Dragon Lord | Thursday, 18. October 2012, 21:43 Post #16 |
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Sorry, I wasn't referring to Sage mentioning that. I agree that for those who do want to go to college, removing homework might hurt them. |
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| Sage | Friday, 19. October 2012, 22:31 Post #17 |
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Not at the cost of them failing and dropping out, no. There are other ways to teach children responsibility. Then keep it in under the guise of College Prep., but make it optional for those who wish to be better prepared for the future -- not everyone goes to college, or even wants to, after all. |
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| Stacha | Friday, 19. October 2012, 23:15 Post #18 |
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I've never known anyone to drop out of high school because they didn't want to do homework. I have however talked to many of my old classmates who wish that they had put forth the effort in school because it's biting them now. Homework is not a bad thing. It re-enforces lessons, teaches responsibility, and encourages learning outside of the classroom. All of which are positive things. And it's true that not everyone wants to go to college, but a LOT of people decide to go back later on. I'm currently working with an old friend of mine to get him into school. He never completed his homework, got poor test grades, and had very little interest in school and now he's paying for it because now that he's decided that college is the best option for him, he has a poor high school G.P.A. and no ACT/SAT scores to present a school. Many other classmates of mine are coming to the same conclusion with the same problems. "Oh shoot, those grades really DID matter!" Very few of us know what we want to do when we're still in high school. Many who didn't want to go to college after graduation are realizing years later that college can bring with it better career opportunities. So when you limit homework to college prep, only those students who already know that they're going to college will take advantage of it, which will leave all of those other students at a disadvantage should they decide to attend later on. It's not as though homework eats a huge chunk of your life, it's meant to help you. It may not benefit every single individual, but it absolutely benefits the majority, and depriving them of that benefit will only hurt the majority. Why cater to the minority of students unwilling to spend an hour of their evenings on homework? |
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| Sage | Friday, 19. October 2012, 23:38 Post #19 |
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Because there are better ways of handling it so that no one gets the short end of the stick. The entire point of the education system is to educate. Teaching children responsibility fits with that, but punishing those who are intelligent enough to do extremely well in class simply because they didn't feel like doing their homework makes no sense, even if they are the minority. My point is you can teach children responsibility without actually forcing it upon them and punishing those who just don't care. Alright, I understand that, but wouldn't that also teach those children responsibility? Instead of being taught it by force, they're given the option to prepare for college themselves, which is an even better lesson in responsibility. |
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| Stacha | Friday, 19. October 2012, 23:47 Post #20 |
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If a student isn't willing to put forth the effort that a class requires, then they don't deserve a high grade. Teachers take the time to create lesson plans, grade tests and homework, grade essays. Why should students be able to blow it off because they "didn't feel like it" with no penalty? That's not how the real world works. You can't just expect kids to do the responsible thing 100% of the time. Given the option to prepare for college without being required to do homework is going to end badly. I wouldn't have done it when I was in high school, and I DID plan on going to college. Very few kids are going to choose to do homework. It has to be required or not there at all. |
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