Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals

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Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
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M.o.D	Thursday, 25. October 2012, 20:00 Post #1
Level 7 Posts: 1,464 Group: Silver Member Member #5,235 Joined: Sep 21, 2010	Quote: Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals. Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago. http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517 it's only a matter of time before this goes the same way as homosexuality/gay with it as a lifestyle and orientation. perhaps pedosexual?
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Sage	Thursday, 25. October 2012, 20:24 Post #2
Member Title Posts: 284 Group: Member Member #190 Joined: Mar 28, 2008 Message Message Where did you find us? The Internet Skype No Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1171679/alps.png	They're essentially the same thing, so yeah.

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Drama	Thursday, 25. October 2012, 20:31 Post #3
Level 11 Posts: 8,201 Group: Retired Staff Member #21 Joined: Mar 23, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1171559/Abstract2.png	please explain to me how they are the same.

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Louisa	Thursday, 25. October 2012, 21:08 Post #4
Louisa Vuitton Posts: 18,906 Group: Gold Member Member #29 Joined: Mar 23, 2008 Post Background http://i.imgur.com/6J3nx30.jpg	Sage Thursday, 25. October 2012, 20:24 They're essentially the same thing, so yeah. you're trying too hard to get a reaction

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Stacha	Thursday, 25. October 2012, 21:14 Post #5
When you wear my flower, you make it beautiful. Posts: 28,956 Group: Administrator Member #6,573 Joined: Jul 8, 2011 Message In this world you can be oh-so smart of oh-so pleasant. For a while I was smart. I prefer pleasant. Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1171554/admin_pattern.png	While it's true that their attraction to children is no less natural than heterosexual attraction or homosexual attraction, there are still some major differences that put them in nowhere near the same category. The first and biggest being: children cannot give consent. And as long as studies continue to support the fact that sexual exposure at young ages has serious psychological consequences to a child, consent laws are not going to go away. This is why pedophilia is never and should never be legalized, as opposed to homosexual relationships between two consenting adults that cause no more psychological harm or risk than your average heterosexual relationship.
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Cody	Friday, 26. October 2012, 00:42 Post #6
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	Stacha Thursday, 25. October 2012, 21:14 While it's true that their attraction to children is no less natural than heterosexual attraction or homosexual attraction, there are still some major differences that put them in nowhere near the same category. The first and biggest being: children cannot give consent. And as long as studies continue to support the fact that sexual exposure at young ages has serious psychological consequences to a child, consent laws are not going to go away. This is why pedophilia is never and should never be legalized, as opposed to homosexual relationships between two consenting adults that cause no more psychological harm or risk than your average heterosexual relationship. I agree. Children can 'give consent' (at least in some cases), but it's been proven that, for the most part, their brains are not developed enough to make those kinds of decisions. I can see the connection between a physical attraction to another person of the same gender and physical attraction to a younger person, there is a huge difference in the nature of the relationship between both parties.

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FallenShadow	Friday, 26. October 2012, 01:33 Post #7
The Stoner Artist Posts: 6,563 Group: Member Member #1,591 Joined: Aug 25, 2008 Message When insanity sets in you will never be able to tell for you have been consumed by it from the beginning	Sage Thursday, 25. October 2012, 20:24 They're essentially the same thing, so yeah. Well, I guess calling you out as an idiot, which is true, just leads to a deleted post and a warning... big whoop.. So, I suppose I'll tell you why you're an idiot for this statement you've made. If you honestly believe that homosexuality and pedophilia is "essentially the same thing", then you deserve the post I made originally. There will always be people who claim that it's a natural thing as natural as homosexuality. Those people making that claim, are in fact just pedophiles looking for an excuse to have sex with children, legally. They may be wired wrong from birth to be attracted to young children, but it's a choice to seduce a child and basically rape them. Children can not give consent, they can not even begin to understand what sex is between a 4yr old and an adult. They're not developed mentally or physically and such relationships lead to long term mental stress and dis-function. It's harmful to the child, who CAN NOT give consent, purely for the adult to get their rocks off for being sexually perverted. None of these things reflect the same towards homosexuality. Homosexual relationships are between consenting adults and teenagers who have already gone through puberty and developed into their sexuality, essentially. They mutually consent to join into a relation, both parties understanding the terms of the relationship. Children do not understand these terms and would just be coerced into sexual acts by these adults, taking advantage of the fact that children can't make decisions of these magnitudes for themselves.. because they're children. They don't understand the world.
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Sage	Friday, 26. October 2012, 19:42 Post #8
Member Title Posts: 284 Group: Member Member #190 Joined: Mar 28, 2008 Message Message Where did you find us? The Internet Skype No Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1171679/alps.png	Louisa Thursday, 25. October 2012, 21:08 Sage Thursday, 25. October 2012, 20:24 They're essentially the same thing, so yeah. you're trying too hard to get a reaction Can't help it. Homosexuality and pedophilia are essentially the same thing. You can try to deny or reject that fact (yes, fact) all you'd like, but it's true. Legality is irrelevant, as is your opinion or the opinion of society. Cody, the "nature of the relationship" is in no way different. What's different is how society views those relationships. 10 years ago, homosexuality was horribly, horribly wrong. 1,000 years ago, pedophilia was perfectly acceptable. Having an attraction toward an individual of the same sex is homosexuality. Change "the same sex" to "prepubescent age" and you have pedophilia. Change "of prepubescent age" to "sans pulse" and you have necrophilia. Change "sans pulse" to "of another species" and you have zoophilia. They're all the same. All of them.

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Bluezone777	Saturday, 27. October 2012, 09:40 Post #9
Level 8 Posts: 1,763 Group: Gold Member Member #131 Joined: Mar 24, 2008	Pedophiles do not have relationships. They treat the children as if they were sex toys and discard them when they "break" or are no longer fun for them. At no point do they attempt to pursue a relationship and that is why pedophiles will never get the same rights as as those who pursue relationships with those who can give consent. Children do not give consent as they are coerced into it and in now way could any sort of relationship form from that.

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FallenShadow	Saturday, 27. October 2012, 10:10 Post #10
The Stoner Artist Posts: 6,563 Group: Member Member #1,591 Joined: Aug 25, 2008 Message When insanity sets in you will never be able to tell for you have been consumed by it from the beginning	Bluezone777 Saturday, 27. October 2012, 09:40 Pedophiles do not have relationships. They treat the children as if they were sex toys and discard them when they "break" or are no longer fun for them. At no point do they attempt to pursue a relationship and that is why pedophiles will never get the same rights as as those who pursue relationships with those who can give consent. Children do not give consent as they are coerced into it and in now way could any sort of relationship form from that. This. + the fact that as soon as the child reaches puberty or even before, they no longer are useful to pedophiles and they discard them. That's not seeking a relationship.
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Cody	Saturday, 27. October 2012, 14:49 Post #11
Winter is coming. Posts: 34,279 Group: Administrator Member #139 Joined: Mar 24, 2008 Post Background http://z5.ifrm.com/30110/58/0/p1132133/BG.png	Sage Friday, 26. October 2012, 19:42 Louisa Thursday, 25. October 2012, 21:08 Sage Thursday, 25. October 2012, 20:24 They're essentially the same thing, so yeah. you're trying too hard to get a reaction Can't help it. Homosexuality and pedophilia are essentially the same thing. You can try to deny or reject that fact (yes, fact) all you'd like, but it's true. Legality is irrelevant, as is your opinion or the opinion of society. Cody, the "nature of the relationship" is in no way different. What's different is how society views those relationships. 10 years ago, homosexuality was horribly, horribly wrong. 1,000 years ago, pedophilia was perfectly acceptable. Having an attraction toward an individual of the same sex is homosexuality. Change "the same sex" to "prepubescent age" and you have pedophilia. Change "of prepubescent age" to "sans pulse" and you have necrophilia. Change "sans pulse" to "of another species" and you have zoophilia. They're all the same. All of them. I understand your view, but the problem is that it's only looking at the relationship through one angle: the pedophile's. But what about the child's, who may or may not have consented to the relationship? To look at it in a more extreme angle, such as zoophilia as you mentioned, how could an animal ever possibly consent to a relationship with a human? That is the difference in the nature of the relationship that I was referring to - it is not two-sided. While all of your examples may be connected by the fact that they are physical attractions to varying subjects, to look at it just in that perspective is to oversimplify it. I have this question I'd like to propose to you, though, because you haven't yet voiced your opinion clearly: do you believe homophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, necrophilia, etc. should be as legal as heterophilia, or are you just arguing for the sake of playing devil's advocate? (Using similar endings for sake of comparison, they may not all be words)

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Stacha	Sunday, 28. October 2012, 00:07 Post #12
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