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| Jimmy | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:05 Post #61 |
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I'm not active here much anymore (<3 all you though). But if this is real; I think its a horrible Idea. While I'm pretty sure this is a prank, ZN has pulled atleast 1 reverse aprils fool... Hope this isn't one of them. |
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| StephenZB | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:13 Post #62 |
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You bring up a great point. Our staff, currently, can provide the basics and get people on their way. And we can fix their errors. But to truly learn and grow, and advance, they need more help. This is something Outline can provide. Rather than have to register on several boards, they simply register on one and everything they need is right there. Once they've 'graduated' they can look to the staff of Outline for more advanced knowledge. This can be done either via permission masks and joinable groups or just in the way we allocate our staff and arrange the forums. Keep in mind, we have enough staff for our areas on Support and Resources. We aren't looking to take on more in that way. Instead, we are looking to offer new areas of interest with already knowledgeable people to run these areas. |
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| Geoffrey | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:23 Post #63 |
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Registering on a new board takes 5 minutes, max. If removing that process is your goal, you are incredibly lazy and insulting everyone else by saying they are as well. If you want to "graduate" your supportees onto higher things, why not put a redirect forum on ZN to Outline and even put one to Antiquus for forum promotion? Everyone keeps their community, their board, etc. and you still get the same feeling of "togetherness." A large board like what would come from the merging of Outline, Antiquus and ZN Support (and Resources) is incredibly difficult to navigate, post and discuss on, etc. That's why I avoid forums like Digital Point, it's too big for my liking. |
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| Ferus Grim | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:33 Post #64 |
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Does this mean I can be a retired staff member on ZN? ;D |
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| tiptopolive | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:34 Post #65 |
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Stephen, I'm guessing this is a joke that you are trying to string along by continuing to post, but even so I'd like to ask a question: how does it benefit your forum service, the point of which surely is to promote the growth of individual forums, if you gobble up all the "meta" forums (forums about design, promotion, coding, etc)? |
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| Nicolas | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:47 Post #66 |
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We grandfathered in former staff from ZNR/ZBTZ/IFSZ and let them keep their hidden staff forum. We didn't mix the groups together, though. This will likely be done for Outline, as well. However, as the announcement said: we're not answering questions about specific forums/groups yet. We're hardly "gobbling [them] up". Administration is appropriate consulted and agreeable to it first. If they don't support the idea/vision then we don't just take things over. |
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| tiptopolive | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:53 Post #67 |
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Absorbing, subsidizing, whatever you want to call it. I wasn't trying to characterize. And that's fine that you consult the admins, but what about the user base? As I remember, a lot of the TZ community was opposed to the idea. I couldn't say if it was a majority or not. And by the way...
Then why did Locke, basically the father and sole admin of SZ/TZ for several years, quit over the "direction the board was heading" before the merger? He specifically cited a lack of communication on the way things were being handled by the support board. Honest question, I would really like to know more about that situation. Again, this is pretty academic, as I'm guessing this is a Fool's Day joke. Edited by tiptopolive, Monday, 1. April 2013, 18:27.
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| Cody | Monday, 1. April 2013, 17:55 Post #68 |
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I was actually tied to a chair and my family was threatened. |
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| Louisa | Monday, 1. April 2013, 18:41 Post #69 |
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wait, this is serious? |
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| Bluezone777 | Monday, 1. April 2013, 18:46 Post #70 |
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I honestly doubt it as it's probably just an April Fools Day joke that no one finds funny outside of the few who thought it would be a grand idea to find humor through irritating people who care about Outline and/or Antiquus. |
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| Louisa | Monday, 1. April 2013, 18:47 Post #71 |
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| Joe | Monday, 1. April 2013, 18:48 Post #72 |
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I don't necessarily support this, but I'm interested to see the outcome nonetheless. I'm assuming this is legit as Cody did discuss this with me on Skype well before the announcement was made. If not, then that's one lame, regurgitated prank. |
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| Venomed | Monday, 1. April 2013, 18:50 Post #73 |
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its just a total prank. you know it very well |
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| jackie | Monday, 1. April 2013, 19:12 Post #74 |
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Everyone has done one, two, or all three of these: A. This is an awful joke B. This is a downright awful idea what are you idiots talking about C. What's happening omg this can't happen I hope this doesn't happen There's no emoticon to express my feelings except hashtag annoyed at everyone.
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| Madyy | Monday, 1. April 2013, 19:22 Post #75 |
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Regardless of whether this is legit or just a prank, I really think it's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. I've read every post in this thread and to be honest, I really don't remember what all has been said about this. But all I remember from when I first read this after it was first posted is that the first thing to came to mind is this - there's a reason I, and probably others, come to Outline instead of ZNRS or whatever it's called. You want our resources and whatever, I get that. But Outline and ZNRS are two different boards. With two different atmospheres. And you can try, but I honestly don't think it'd work out. You can think that maybe you can fix it to keep Outline's community happy over at ZNRS, but it won't work. What's wrong with having more than one place with different resources? You have to waste a few minutes and register at more than one board? While I understand that Outline is a resource board and the focus isn't solely on the community, it does have one of the best communities I've ever been a part of and I don't want to see that thrown away be merging. Even if you say it won't happen, it will. ZNRS is official. It's THE resource and support board for Zetaboards. It just...feels different. Because it is. It won't work. I'm really certain that this is a joke, but if not, there's my two cents. Because y'know, what the community thinks does matter. |
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| Gabe. | Monday, 1. April 2013, 19:32 Post #76 |
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This is what I've been trying to say but couldn't put into words. You can say all you want that we will be happy there, but I for one will never log in to ZNRS, merge or no merge. |
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| Chris. | Monday, 1. April 2013, 20:00 Post #77 |
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If i wanted to be active on ZNRS, then I would be active there. Im not active there because i just don't like the feel of the forum overall. It doesn't really feel like a community to me and the only people that really matter are the top resource providers. If this, is in fact, truthful of what is going to happen with ZNRS/Outline/Antiquus, theres going to be hell to pay.Also, 10/10 would read again, just for the shitstorm this has caused Edited by Chris., Monday, 1. April 2013, 20:03.
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| StephenZB | Monday, 1. April 2013, 20:18 Post #78 |
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Because Locke loved drama and wanted to stir up controversy. There was no concrete direction at that point because decisions needed his input and he wasn't giving it. So finally, staff started to move on without his input and he did not like that. Here's the quick and dirty version since you asked: The summer we announced the merge, I receive a PM from Locke on Support basically announcing his intentions to retire from ZBTZ. His PM was about finding a proper successor and getting a transition in place. On the Support end, we discuss incorporating the board into the Official network, temporarily bulking it up with our staff while Locke trains his successor and then our staff return to support and we have two strong official boards. We then shared this with Locke and the TZ staff. That was the plan. Problem was, even before we informed the staff, a lot of TZ staff were burned out and ready for retirement. Including all three administrators. When the admins are burned out, the rest of the staff are hardly motivated and so simply bulking them up was just not going to cut it. This meant more time for our staff on ZBTZ. This would not have been an issue had Locke not demanded weeks later to have most of our staff removed from ZBTZ because we looked like some sort of invading army. So we did that. This was around October. The momentum we had from the announcement and the small changes we'd implemented, started to grind to a screeching halt because of Locke. Whether it was not making a decision or whether it was simple disagreement, when Locke posted a disagreeable post, all discussion stopped as his staff would simply stop responding. In effect, discussion was shut down and more and more decisions hinged on Locke. The problem though was that Locke was supposed to be retiring right? He wasn't so sure. But, he didn't really tell us one way or the other. The successor we'd asked him to name hadn't happened and while we did promote two admins to handle the other teams, there was still no potential head admin. At the time, Locke had personal matters to attend which took precedence over running ZNR. However, a board can not simply remain in stasis forever. What followed in the Spring of the next year was a series of events. Both myself and Brian had issues within our own personal lives and like Locke's, they took precedence over the board. However, someone still had to run things in our absence and since we had heard little from Locke, we had to make the decision to put someone there until one of the three of us could resume the duty of managing the board. Locke didn't love it, but he agreed. He did not however support the immediate promotion of someone else by the temporary admin. And so he asked Brian and myself for some information about where we were headed and some features that were in the works at the time. I saw this request while at work and unavailable. As it was a weekend and I was not able to respond, I called Brian (emphasis on CALLED) on a weekend and asked him to respond. Brian, on a weekend, also in the midst of personal matters, did this promptly and offered to answer any other questions Locke asked. That Monday(?), Locke pulled his dramatic exit without a word to any of his staff. And if you think they were happy with him, you'd be wrong. Lack of communication runs two ways. And if you were to poll the staff at the time, you would find it was not communication on my end that was lacking. |
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| Sage | Monday, 1. April 2013, 20:19 Post #79 |
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An article confirming the merger hasn't yet been posted on ZNB, so it's a complete hoax. Sorry Stephen, Edited by Sage, Monday, 1. April 2013, 20:21.
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| Geoffrey | Monday, 1. April 2013, 20:28 Post #80 |
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Oh shit.
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