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Outline's Grand Finale [Delayed]
Topic Started: Monday, 9. September 2013, 14:51 (15,665 Views)
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Gutted to hear this but nothing lasts forever in life. :(

I've gained a lot of design knowledge on Outline, especially from Cody, Tom, Steven and Louisa. This knowledge has improved my design skills as well as helped me in my interactive media design course.

I've made some good friends here and really enjoyed conversing with everyone.

If anyone wants to keep in touch with me then please don't hesitate to contact me through a PM for contact details. ^.^

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Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 09:54
Seems to me this is more about the current admin having his life be taken in a direction where Outline doesn't follow then anything. I don't see why the current managers can't both be promoted to administrator to carry on admin duties provided they want to take on the job as I think both are truly capable of stepping up to the plate provided they want to take that step. I think it would be good to see Outline get new leadership to take it in a new direction and continue evolving itself as I think things have grown too stagnant here due to the leadership staying essentially the same for so long. Perhaps this could be seen as an opportunity to change and evolve Outline instead of just closing it and letting be forgotten?

When Sith quit, this board didn't just up and close then so why should it do that now simply because its current "founder" has decided to essentially retire? I truly think you are making a mistake in letting this be the end simply because it's the end of the road for you, Cody.

//My two cents
i didn't need to post anything anyway... these are my thoughts too :#

why are people saying it's the best decision? if you like visiting here, it's not the best decision in my opinion
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Saw this coming. Well, not this exact result, but something along the lines of it. Happened much sooner than I thought it would though. I was expecting it sometime next year or mid 2015.
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Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 09:54
Seems to me this is more about the current admin having his life be taken in a direction where Outline doesn't follow then anything. I don't see why the current managers can't both be promoted to administrator to carry on admin duties provided they want to take on the job as I think both are truly capable of stepping up to the plate provided they want to take that step. I think it would be good to see Outline get new leadership to take it in a new direction and continue evolving itself as I think things have grown too stagnant here due to the leadership staying essentially the same for so long. Perhaps this could be seen as an opportunity to change and evolve Outline instead of just closing it and letting be forgotten?

When Sith quit, this board didn't just up and close then so why should it do that now simply because its current "founder" has decided to essentially retire? I truly think you are making a mistake in letting this be the end simply because it's the end of the road for you, Cody.

//My two cents
Stacha, Doug, and Cody previously talked about this issue regarding if new leadership would be taken into account. Cody wants this forum to be a design forum, not completely evolve into a community forum, which is what Doug and Stacha are both more comfortable with. I understand it's the best decision primarily because I've talked about this with him, even told him I would be willing to take it over, but the fact of the matter is, he doesn't want this forum to end up like most others. Tossed around until it's just ash.

From the looks of it, he just doesn't want to risk all of it and it die, but instead, go out on it's own terms.

If there was a way I could've convinced him I would, but the staff had done their part as well trying to find out better alternatives. It just didn't work out and every plan had holes in it that he didn't want to put Outline at risk with.

Regardless though.. I think Stacha and Doug could keep this thriving if it wasn't for the design aspect of everything.
I'm not sure if this is exactly what happened, as I'm not staff, but I try to stay as close to the staff as possible even after my leave.
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Bluezone777
Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 09:54
Seems to me this is more about the current admin having his life be taken in a direction where Outline doesn't follow then anything. I don't see why the current managers can't both be promoted to administrator to carry on admin duties provided they want to take on the job as I think both are truly capable of stepping up to the plate provided they want to take that step. I think it would be good to see Outline get new leadership to take it in a new direction and continue evolving itself as I think things have grown too stagnant here due to the leadership staying essentially the same for so long. Perhaps this could be seen as an opportunity to change and evolve Outline instead of just closing it and letting be forgotten?

When Sith quit, this board didn't just up and close then so why should it do that now simply because its current "founder" has decided to essentially retire? I truly think you are making a mistake in letting this be the end simply because it's the end of the road for you, Cody.

//My two cents
I'll be honest, and say this was my initial thought when I first heard about Outline closing. I'm not sure what the best choice is, nor do I think anyone knows what the best choice. Who knows, if Outline would go to die or become an even better forum with new leadership. But that's not a risk Cody wants to take. Personally, I know that I've done everything in my power to stop this from happening, but at this point that means nothing. This is going to force a new era upon the community, and we're going to have to adapt to it.

Outline has been the biggest influence on my life. I've spent a number of years on the forum, whether I was staff or a member, and every second of it I enjoyed. There was a particular atmosphere here - one devoted to people learning, people connecting, and people just having a good time. I've never seen this on a forum before. Outline is what got me really into designing, and especially into coding. Like others, without Outline, I probably wouldn't even have my college major (computer science) picked out yet because Outline introduced me to this development world. People like Cody, Joe, Steven, Matt, Cory...they all inspired me to become that person - to open up new doors for myself. It's changed my life permanently.

And for that I thank Outline, I thank Cody, and I thank the entire Outline Community. <3
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I suppose we can look at it this way. If a new leader is appointed, it's a risk of whether that person can lead the forum and keep it going. If no new leader is appointed, nobody can run it into the ground or wreck it. Instead, the community just keeps it going and as Nick said, adapts. Nothing has to say people can't keep submitting themes and designs to the board for people to use or get feedback on, nor use the board just to discuss whatever. I suppose saying at this point there is no obligation by anybody to do anything, that nobody can get pissed off at somebody who doesn't do what they are required to do as a leader or whatever.
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Honestly I didn't expect this, I guess I just figured Outline to always be around even when other boards or networks are having problems. I've literally been here from the beginning, since James created it. Never would've thought I see this creation grow as big as it did. I haven't been the most active as I should've been, but I met so many good people .. and this forum helped me decide on my career into designing and gaming.

I just want to thank James, Cody and Joe for the countless hours and dedication you've put into everything. Without you three, Outline would've never succeeded.
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Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 12:13
Who knows, if Outline would go to die or become an even better forum with new leadership. But that's not a risk Cody wants to take.
personally i think the people who have contributed to this website and the ones who will still be around in the future should have a say about whether it's a risk worth taking or not
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As others have sort of hinted at, there's no reason people have to stop posting after the last day as an updated forum. I expect activity to go down some, but at the same time, the future will be what we make it. Who says we need an active administrator to have an active forum? I've seen plenty of forums where the admin is inactive in the community completely and only working on the backend. With ZB, the admin doesn't even do any backend work. And Outline has been around long enough that the board settings ought to be a pretty stable place.

For those of you upset about the decision to not add a new admin, try to make the most out of it. There won't be another member of the month, member's weekend, another new theme, etc. but that's all extra fluff that a forum doesn't really need to start out with. A forum needs members and we have that here. Instead of making plans to keep in touch with people outside of Outline, make a commitment to stick around and keep posting. This doesn't have to be the end of Outline completely, even if there is no new admin.
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Major respect to Cody, Joe, Sith and the Outline gang for making Outline a great community. Even though I haven't been an active asset to this community, I have been an active lurker.
Life goes on I suppose. Many of the friends I have made over the years on InvisionFree/ZetaBoards have moved on and started their own families and lives. I hope I get the chance to keep in touch with some of you before you all start vanishing.

It's only downhill from here. Members will start not coming back to visit new topics and such due to the fact that there isn't an active leader (Cody).
All in all, I love each and every one of you for everything you've done for this community and ZetaBoards as a whole. PLEASE keep in touch with me somehow so I won't lose you guys forever. :(
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I do wanna mention that promoting Doug and Stacha to administrator would probably be the best thing for Outline right now. The community is still quite alive.
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Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 16:15
I do wanna mention that promoting Doug and Stacha to administrator would probably be the best thing for Outline right now. The community is still quite alive.
But you're not reading what they've already said. Nor Stacha or Doug feel comfortable getting promoted to Administrator because Outline is a design forum and they both are running the community part. It doesn't matter if the community is alive, bottom line it's a design/resource forum and he wants it to keep it that way and I think everyone should respect what Cody and the staff have decided.
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I take it then that basically the plan is the community may continue, but the services and all that are being deemed as no longer an official thing this place will continue to offer, but at the same time, it doesn't mean they have to stop. Just because Doug and Stacha prefer to deal with the community side of things, doesn't mean everybody should go neglecting the design aspects of this board.

Honestly, I think people are starting to make too many assumptions as to what this place is meant to be capable of after this grand finale. Is it just going to remain as a general chat board? Or will the design aspects continue in terms of submissions, feedback, etc? I think everyone gets we're not seeing a new leader elected, but there seems to be mixed messages now as to what extent this board will continue to be in the future.

Will contests and community events be discontinued regardless of how many people are still here? Will the design aspects of the board be entirely neglected and left as archives, or will they still be fully open for people to submit things and give feedback? Obviously, we know the community side of things in terms of the general chat areas are going to continue, same as there isn't going to be any obligation to provide updates and new features to the board. But I see no reason to go killing off sections of the board if people are still going to be using them.
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Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 16:21
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Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 16:15
I do wanna mention that promoting Doug and Stacha to administrator would probably be the best thing for Outline right now. The community is still quite alive.
But you're not reading what they've already said. Nor Stacha or Doug feel comfortable getting promoted to Administrator because Outline is a design forum and they both are running the community part. It doesn't matter if the community is alive, bottom line it's a design/resource forum and he wants it to keep it that way and I think everyone should respect what Cody and the staff have decided.
"It doesn't matter if the community is alive"? I don't agree. At all.

While Outline is more or less a design forum - the only part of it keeping it alive and kicking is the community aspect of it. The resources are more or less useless at this stage of the snowglobe. I respect shutting down the services, but the community still wants it to live and that's all that should matter. If people want to get better at design, they can do so. The staff doesn't have to do anything.

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Do what you gotta do Cody, we all have priorities. Since everyone's posting a little story about their time here, I will too.

I had a hell of a time as a staff member that I cut short stupidly, don't really remember the whole reason why but about a month after I did I wanted to come back. That didn't really happen since during the time I was just a lurker and the time I wanted to come back there were a lot of different people posting and I kind of felt shut out, a pretty stupid feeling to have over the internet but whatever. After that I got a few moderator positions at a couple different upcoming forums but they didn't give the same love as Outline did. I miss talking to the people that I made friends with here, a lot are gone, busy with work or school or are in a different timezone where I could only talk to them at like 3AM my time. I need to make an effort to talk to you all over Skype sometime.

This place fucking rocks, always did and will and I hope that not taking first priority in the services doesn't force away any new members that will come along and I hope that most of you here will still stick around. I'm going to get back into the community here since it's been my "Home Forum" since Boost and I don't want to leave it again for another stupid reason.

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I shall try to be here for the last day as i was here for the very first :P
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Tuesday, 10. September 2013, 18:34
I shall try to be here for the last day as i was here for the very first :P
The last day will be what the community as a whole makes the last day to be. The ending of the finale doesn't have to mean the end of the board if the community continues to visit and keep this place thriving by just talking to each other and having a good time here as always.

Personally if this place continues after the finale, I'd like to see another community theme happen if possible. That'd be a neat way to bring the community together again to do something while also letting those who love design continue to do so at the same time. :)
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Hi.

I left in poor taste because of my physical health. I also had an epiphany that my life had become absorbed by foruming / gaming and I needed to change that.

That said, I just got home from the hospital and decided I would lurk to see if you had done the "rebranding" yet. To my dismay I saw a piece of my history, my childhood and adolescence, being 'put down', if you will. In case you are interested, I am now waiting for surgery, and when I get well, I will be applying to the peace core and traveling abroad.

I spent countless hours here at Outline and am very thankful for some of the friendships I had as well as the not-so-friend-ships. All of the art created here is and was beautiful.

I have no thoughts on your decision. I already said my goodbye to the community but I wanted to say goodbye to the forum as well.

Good luck with your career Cody and I wish everyone here has a great life. I won't ever forget this place.


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I would personally love to do another community theme.
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